eyes wide shut who was the masked woman

Every woman Bill meets in the film wants him, wants to be with him; Alice The Redeemer's voice does sound alot like Mandy's voice, both with a hint of a New York accent. Even had Alice found it in the cadenza, would > she have recognized it as meaningful and taken it?>> Even though much was 'cleared" up there are still major mysteries here. The masked woman was played by a different actor but is the samecharacter. When Bill asks what, she simply responds, "Fuck." Eyes Wide Shut developed after Stanley Kubrick read Arthur Schnitzler's Dream Story in 1968, when Kubrick was looking for a project to follow 2001: A Space Odyssey. Kubrick was interested in adapting the story, and with the help of journalist Jay Cocks, bought the filming rights to the novel. Eyes Wide Shut is Stanley Kubrick's final movie starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, but what does the mask on the pillow near the end mean? I enjoy the > mystery entirely and will return to it over and over and could watch the > film again and again.>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequently> send a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? Perhaps the conspiracies surrounding Eyes Wide Shut began when the maker of the film, Stanley Kubrick, died only days after the first viewing of it. Lets look at the basic plot of this film. Are we not acceptingZiegle'sr story here once again, and then retrospectivelyinterpellating and internalising it, re-interpreting all the earlierevents of the film in strict accordance with his frankly deeplysuspect account? Bill in that scene was simply behaving as a (not very) professionaldoctor; and he seemed just as concerned about Ziegler's anxiety thanabout Mandy's actual wellbeing. WebChords for Backward Priests, normal version of Masked Ball Eyes wide shut with lyrics. How? I think the voice would have rung a bell and the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so he was in shock. I never siad Bill recognized him.we get to recognize him when we study it. ", "Victor what can I say. at the> ceremony/orgy. He obtains the secret password to a clandestine masked ball, where he has a seductive encounter with a beautiful stranger. Even Sk was not perfect in that way-----or was hethere is the mystery. Given that you have, as you already admitted, absolutely nounderstanding of the terms used or indeed the context in which theywere used, your pedantry is now exposed as pure and contemptiblefraudulence. at the ceremony/orgy. Even Ziegler only uses that wordin reference to his own earlier party, while referring to the Somertonrituals always more elusively: "I was there, at the House", "what ifwhat happened was a fake, a charade", etc, but no mention of any'party' at Somerton. but comparing the shot with all the the bathroom shots, eventually it is clear that it is Mandy. It would be odd for him to say, "orgy," or ritual, etc. orpsychotherapists. (meaning the Mysterious woman) "victor the woman lying dead at the morgue was the women at the party, well victor, maybe i'm missing something heyou call it a Charadetell me what kind of Charade ends up with someone dead.". ME> Again. and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing this," Mandy says, "Ya." If it was all a elaborate part of Bill's initiation into the order. As 1999 approached, what little was known about Eyes Wide Shut was almost indecently tantalising. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, "I > know.". <<<<<<< Simply because we don't really know the extent of the "charade," from the > Illuminatii/Secret government etc, OR what SK really had in mind---to blow > our mind. What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning theidentities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps anddeadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just likeZiegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' ofevents. because Bill didn't get to see him up close like the film > audience.>, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Again, is this not another case of> 'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simply> because of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?> And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member of> the power elite? '<<<<<<<<<<< I think it is clear he was > referring to the Somerton party. It was a > party nevertheless. > But the credits have Abigail Good as> "mysterious woman" and Julienne Davis as Mandy. This is the implication of Dream Storytoo - with the movie being quite faithful to the structure of the novella - though Kubrick obviously leaves this moment up to interpretation. A powerful man realizes one night that his wife has had not one but myriad > that unless they are encoded in single frames for analysis will alwasy be > a mystery. The lower part is made of paper-mache, while the upper one However, the lack of one may have saved the life of gangster Vincent (Mad Dog) Coll (various movies). 0. > Its common sense he was referring to Somerton as the party. Tragically it was the director's final film with Kubrick dying less than a week after screening an incomplete cut for the studio and its stars. Put on some headphones and listen. In contrast to the Ziegler-Bill poolroom scene clearing up allambiguities (Ziegler's seeming 'commonsensical' and desublimating'explanation' of the Somerton ritual), as many have complained in thepast, this scene instead multiplies and amplifies the uncertainties.Ziegler in this scene, as in earlier ones, seams to be simultaneouslysaying two contradictory things - a deadlock of entrapment: he triesto completely shut down the question surrounding the extent to whichthe whole Somerton ritual was 'merely' a theatrical 'charade' byinsisting - to Bill - that it was precisely nothing more than a merecharade, a mere trivial irrelevance. and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing >> this," Mandy says, "Ya." Bill Harford doesn't really showmuch recognition in th emorgue scene. Statanic mass? He did not know who she was: she was wearinga mask. It was a party nevertheless. And coming from the newsgroup'sresident acid-headed, solipsistic zombie. Nevertheless, those two recollections(one of a fantasy, one of a dream) constitute the very desire whoseexclusion (from the quotidian, commonsensical, 'social reality' of theHarfords' marriage) the film is exploring. > Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curran> suffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make a> connection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafe> that set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier served> as Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? <<<<<<<<< etc. > it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." "you are going to need some rehab," she says, >> "I know.">. Put on some headphones and listen. The (unnamed) woman in the mask who warns > Doctor Cruise is the same woman who ends up dead in the morgue. It's "clear," after studying the film after many viewing. If this were really thecase, wouldn't Bill have recognised that voice when speaking to themasked woman at Somerton, instead of asking her "Who are you?" At what point do we decide whether Corpse Mandy's very. The (unnamed) woman in the mask who warns Doctor Cruise is the same woman who ends up dead in the morgue. ">> "Victor what can I say. ), Stalepie writes:"the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. From his meeting with Ziegler in the poolroom, it appears that Bill> has been unclear about the identity of the woman in the morgue via-a-> vis Mandy and the masked woman. Plus there is *no* *way* that a rare bookdealer would smoke anywhere near a book of which there are only threecopies in existence. And Milich was expecting him. It is as if he Wanted, as if hedesired, compelled, it to be so again, its at two - simultaneousbut contradictory - levels (as ALWAYS in many of Kubrick's films -like in The Shining: are the spectral ghosts 'real' or is Jack etcimagining them? However, as we might imagine, there were many who believed his death was far from natural. > I am still on the side of those who think SK left that scene of the > reflection of the sound man holding the boom mike at his crotch, in the > crome tub enclosure, on purpose, that the DVD edited out. The rhizomatic uncertainties and> > uncanny inconsistencies multiply >> "Rhizomatic uncertainties"?>> I actually had to look that up. You can identify Pollacks eyes and chin quite easily in the close ups. Bill is ushered to a crowded room and unmasked by the master of ceremonies. But it is obvious from Kubrick's portrayal of Somerton that thewomen are there purely as sex-workers, are there toservice the inner sanctum of male patriarchy in the ritualized desire-space of the power elite at Somerton. <<<<<<<<<<<>. -Herodotus, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, I thought the woman who ODd at the dance party (Mandy), the woman who, Well, in the interview with "Mandy" - I don't care to look up her name, Here is a youtube video of "Mandy" (Julienne Davis), singing in her band, I sent a message to the YouTube person who hosted those "Mandy" videos if. While the final movie was greeted with somewhat mixed reviews at the time, the appreciation for Eyes Wide Shut has only grown since its 1999 debut. The lost of public phones booths will kill off Superman, Dr. Who, and Colin Farrell roles. Here was Stanley Kubrick, for many the worlds greatest living filmmaker, returning with his first finished project in 12 years a sexually provocative adult drama, utterly shrouded in secrecy, starring pre-eminent Hollywood power couple Tom Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. > First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he was > showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom. I am normally the last guy in the, > world to criticize somebody for using big words. It is also perhaps worth pointing out that the Somerton events, thoughso described in countless reviews and commentaries on the film - arenot accurately called an orgy, as that would imply that female, inaddition to male, sexual desire would find free expression at such anevent. news:47897d0b$0$5129$4c36@roadrunner.com > Harry writes: (seen on google)>> >>> 1. so drugged out as to have been clearly incapable of making sense >> >>> of>>> anything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligible >> mumbling),<<<>, >> No, she clearly says "sorry" to Zeigler when he says "you gave us a scare >> kiddo" and then Bill asks her, "How are you feeling now Mandy?" Can it really compete with Rupert? He's super modern too, so his favorite movies include Jaws, Die Hard, The Thing, Ghostbusters and Batman. I like the Ninth Gate alot and have watched it numerous times but it's quite a few notches below EWS. Other interpretations are floating around, including the idea Alice was also at the party, and while there's no set meaning for how the mask got on that pillow, the idea Alice put it there herself seems to be the prevailing theory. >In a big crowd of masked people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is), So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figureon the basis of his eyes?<<<<<<<<<<<<. Bill is, after all, wearing a mask; not only that, butthe Mandy who was in Ziegler's bathroom the night before was 1. sodrugged out as to have been clearly incapable of making sense ofanything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligiblemumbling), Ziegler doing all the talking and explaining. Alot was going on, he had to figure it out. NG was :>the realization of that potential. I think it is clear he was referring to the Somerton party. Mandy was not the same woman. [Some irrelevant pseudo-Buddhist gibberish snipped]. Same voice. The rhizomatic uncertainties and> > uncanny inconsistencies multiply > following: "rhi'zome, n. A rootlike stem under or along the ground,> ordinarily in a horizontal position, which usually sends out roots from> from its lower surface and leafy shoots from its upper surface. Mon 14th Feb 2022 19.00 GMT. >> >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequentlysend a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? andpleading with her to take off her mask? He then breaks down crying and confesses to Alice his misadventures of the past few days. Please either stop > or> shape up. This is Eyes Wide Shut revisited. I always felt a hint of a suggestion, that Alice was someone at that Ceremony/orgy. Please either stop or> shape up. From his meeting with Ziegler in the poolroom, it appears that Billhas been unclear about the identity of the woman in the morgue via-a-vis Mandy and the masked woman. I recognized the voice of the mysterious woman first time I saw the film. It iscertainly distinctly possible that the woman at the party is otherthan the woman at the Somerton ritual, though the former does appearto be the Mandy that ends up in the morgue (she never made it to'rehab', as Dr Bill had suggested but never bothered following up,just later shunted home by Ziegler's heavies); remember, we only haveZiegler's explanation/confirmation that they are the same 'Mandy',hardly a reliable witness given his contradictory assertionsthroughout the film. The movie went through post-production following Stanley Kubrick's death, though some have argued about how much it represents his intended vision. ". No, they aren't half whispered, they might be a little quiet but they aare clear and she has a very distinctive voice. And wouldn't he really feel more at home in amore errrrrrrrr Gnostic setting? > So if instead, he replayed Alice's voice (or Ziegler's voice) this> would 'prove' that the body was that of Alice (or Ziegler)? > not bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using > them> serves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. WebEyes Wide Shut Flat Mask By NomadMessenger From $8.79 Wide Awake during 2020, by Haus of Butterfly Flat Mask By hausofbutterfly From $10.99 Eyes Wide Shut Flat Mask By ArjunVile From $10.99 Colorful watercolor ink splash woman portrait Flat Mask By Misschemical From $9.16 Colorful watercolor ink splash woman portrait Flat Mask By When Bill thinks hes just about to score his own sexual liaison, his charade is exposed. Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come together. >He also must have recognized> the voice, considering that her voice is somewhat deep and throaty with a> tinge of distinctive accent. Interesting, when you search for "actress" in Google image search youget mostly kind of Indian looking women, After the party that Bill & his wife attended, Bill goes off on this solitary journey without her, through the streets and roads of New York State, to have his violent and erotic adventures. Mandy was not the same woman. So if instead, he replayed Alice's voice (or Ziegler's voice) thiswould 'prove' that the body was that of Alice (or Ziegler)? >>What else could he call it? MYMENU MYMENU Masquerade Mask For Couples Eyes Wide Shut cast Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman as a married couple, with the former playing a doctor who goes on a strange, sexually charged journey one night when his wife admits to having had adulterous thoughts. Desire is always the desire of theOther our dreams constituring the realisation of desire. >Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. >>>>>>>>>How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all >>>>>>>>>wearingmasks? 2. If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? That is what she was" implying that her death> is of no consequence because of the low-status manner in which Ziegler> chooses to define her (an identity created and perpetuated by the> Zieglers of the world in the first place), earlier confirmed by his> desire to get the drugged-out Mandy out of his bathroom and house> ("Can we put some clothes on her and get her out of here?" Being "all a Charade," doesn't mean it was all a dream. Sure, but they are half-whispered utterances from a woman in adepressed, semi-conscious state after suffering a potentially lethaldrug overdose. All of this could have been set up by Alice, who asks, Bill in the beginning, "why do you think Zeigler invites us to these? In the spur of the moment people might first recognize voices, subliminally. Statanic mass? 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At what point do we decide whether Corpse Mandy's very slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually knowabout Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask <<<<<<<<<<<<. In contrast, why does the masked woman seeminglyalready know much more than they do? He > was wrestling with whether his buddy Zeigler and all those at the "party," > were killers. <<<<<<<<<<<<<. In fact, the only actual dream in the film is unseen, is onlylater described - namely, Alice's dream/nightmare about having sexwith numerous men (strikingly similar to the fate of the women atSomerton) in which Bill is openly humiliated, and told to Bill justafer he returns from Somerton. And if it's *not* supposed to be obvious, thatmeans that Polanski screwed up. If those 2-3 women were supposed to be the same woman, Kubrick would, I thought this film was much less interesting than the competing film, In rec.arts.movies.past-films Kelpzoidzl <, In rec.arts.movies.past-films Harry Bailey <, On Feb 26, 3:27pm, "Avoid normal situations. WebThe masked woman in the secret party appears to be Mandy (Amanda Curran), who overdosed on speedball in the movies opening, and Bill revived her. It's totally clear the "party' in this reference, is Somerton. He wasn't positive. WebOne of the masked women warns him he is in terrible danger. When we see the news article about dead Mandy, it says "Beauty Queen"but how did Bill know that was the same woman who ODd or helped him atthe orgy, since he never knew the real name of either? When I did this, at first it seems like a similar, but different face, but then seeing one frame of the bathroom scene from a certain angle, it jumped out at me that it was the same person, but I could be wrong. Changes within the building seem to lack that phone booth sense of urgency and drama. I'm your Mutineer~ - Warren Zevon- -. On the other hand, he announcesthat what happened at that 'charade' was hugely, ominously important,so much so that the beating up of Nick Nightingale ("so he had abruise on his face that's a lot less than he deserved") and thedeath of 'Mandy' ("she was a junkie, she OD'd it happens all thetime end of story") was simply of no consequence by comparison. - Zieglerwasn't concerned about her health, just eager to get rid of her so asto avoid any potential social embarrassment, "Bill, this is justbetween us"). WebIn Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut, the protagonist Bill arrives at a secret party/orgy: Shortly after arriving, he is warned by a masked woman to leave ASAP. This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the filmitself, there is absolutely no indication - other than Ziegler'sdubious contention - that Mandy is also the masked woman at Somerton.There could even have been two deaths. -- Steven L.Email: sdli@earthlinkNOSPAM.net, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB6g66OYoKI, "Steven L." wrote in message. Harry, you are calling him a troll for criticizing your manic, vain and pretentious word salad? 2. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, > It's "clear," after studying the film after many viewing.>, > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Ziegle'sr story here once again, and then retrospectively> interpellating and internalising it, re-interpreting all the earlier> events of the film in strict accordance with his frankly deeply> suspect account? -----Richard Schultz sch@mail.biu.ac.ilDepartment of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, IsraelOpinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University-----"It would have been like discussing sundials with a bat. WebEyes Wide Shut is Stanley Kubricks love letter to his wife. Tom Cruise in the Masked Ball ritual scene from Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece Eyes Wide Shut with Jocelyn Pook's haunting score filling the temple. If we try > to go too far in figuring out the film we are left with many mysteries and > much conjecture. Does anyone else sense the inspiration of the mask designs from the film Eyes Wide Shut? (Video in comments) : r/Ghostbc Jocelyn Pook and Opening Title Music from Eyes Wide Shut (1999) | walkerhomeschoolblog. We could say that even Nick was in on it and the phone call to Nick in the Jazz club was a set up to pique Bill's interest, even letting Bill knows the password. The movie is based on the 1920's novella Dream Storyand Kubrick developed the project for decades, and once considered a slightly more comedic take with Steve Martin in the lead role. Statanic mass? Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice? I think this feeling of > guilt and outrage at a murder, would be the first thing on his mind. Was she the women at the party?" In Eyes Wide Shut, Abigail Good plays a `Mysterious Woman'. People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut The genre of Stanley Kubricks last film, based on the well-known story of the Austrian A. Schnitzler, The Amazing. People were dancing, there was music wearing costumes, and although it was strange, calling it a "party," would not be unusual in the slightest. But it isn't clear at all, and nobody in the film refers to the eventsat Somerton as a 'party.'<<<<<<<. Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually knowabout Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask >> If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. But what he was getting at was whether it was murder and a sacrifice for him, which makes him feel responsible, since it would not have happened had he not been there. Even had Alice found it in the cadenza, would she have recognized it as meaningful and taken it? Yes, the three scenes - at Ziegler's party, at the Somerton ritualthe following night, and at the hospital morgue the next day - thatfeature Mandy/the 'masked woman' - remain ambiguous to the end. The way Zeigler confirms it was Mandy is matter of fact and it isn't as though Bill seemed surprised at this--even if the audience might still be confused. > It's totally clear the "party' in this reference, is Somerton. Much of what we have seen is Bill's non-verbal reactions to > all this, which is full of shock and bewilderment. Padraig has been writing about film online since 2012, when a friend asked if he'd like to contribute the occasional review or feature to their site. > slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. Somerton could hardly be described (andcertainly not by Bill) as a 'party.' <<<<<<<<<<. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Again, is this not another case of'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simplybecause of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member ofthe power elite? > Sure, but they are half-whispered utterances from a woman in a> depressed, semi-conscious state after suffering a potentially lethal> drug overdose. Eyes Wide Shut is a 1999 erotic mystery psychological drama film directed, produced and co-written by Stanley Kubrick. Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curransuffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make aconnection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafethat set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier servedas Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? Its common sense he was referring to Somerton as the party. >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 5:36:03 PM UTC-4, JD Chase wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjMIROKzH7s, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4N4vSijHTM, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOhxWdGuQd4, byend.removethisbityousillyper@eskimo.com, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inLfK535oxs. and she replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," Mandy says, "I know." If it is vague, then how can it also be 'clear'? If we try to go too far in figuring out the film we are left with many mysteries. SoZiegler's principal role in the film and in this scene is as anunscrupulous defender of wealth and power and as a power-brokerintermediary (laying down the Law while also routinely transgressingit), threateningly indicating to Bill just what the rich and powerfulcan do and what they can get away with. Some will sink but we will float.Grab your coat. WebI n the film "Eyes Wide Shut", who was the masked woman that redeemed Tom Cruise's character? ANSWERS: 4. WebDirected by Stanley Kubrick Writing Credits Cast (in credits order) verified as complete Produced by Music by Jocelyn Pook Cinematography by Larry Smith (lighting But then, Ziegler's 'explanation', his retconningof past events, only serves to further propel Bill into subjectivedestitution, another 'replay' of Bill's unmasking at Somerton, Zieglerpower-presiding over Bill's position and status at a red pool-tablemuch like Red Cloak presided over the power ritual on a red carpet atSomerton. That is what she was" implying that her deathis of no consequence because of the low-status manner in which Zieglerchooses to define her (an identity created and perpetuated by theZieglers of the world in the first place), earlier confirmed by hisdesire to get the drugged-out Mandy out of his bathroom and house("Can we put some clothes on her and get her out of here?" He only ultimately accepts Ziegler's account because it> gives him a convenient alibi (as well as because of Ziegler's powerful> position - Bill is Ziegler's man, obeying his orders, subscribing to> the demands and realities of Ziegler's world). Rather, he> is beginning to SUSPECT that the body might be that of the masked> woman, a suspician that leads him to look long and hard at her up> close in the morgue. >on the balcony looking down at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to >him. >>>>>>>>>>>And didn't Ziegler subsequently admit that the Somerton peopleonly learned of Bill's identity as a result of becoming suspicious ofhis manner of arrival and the costume-rental receipt in his coatpocket?<<<<<<<<<<<<<. Take another listen. 1. > The way Zeigler confirms it was Mandy is matter of fact and it isn't as > though Bill seemed surprised at this--even if the audience might still be > confused.>, > 2. Well I hope you see now that this is clear after reading the dialogue. andpleading with her to take off her mask? But then again when Superman puts on a pair of plain eyeglassesLois Lane, or anyone else fails to recognize him as Clark Kent! How manypayments of $19.99 was that, again?-- "History is a lie agreed upon." at the >> ceremony/orgy.>, > Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice?>. But that's not the half of it. >In a big crowd of masked> people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is). He didn't recognise her voice. because Bill didn't get to see him up close like the film audience. WebBrowse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask women and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a community of small business-owners. One intriguing reading of the Eyes Wide Shutmask being on the pillow is that it's only in Bill's head as if he's exhausted by trying to hide his attempts at infidelity or true feelings from Alice, leading to an emotional breakdown. 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