I think that would be important to her., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: The top vote getter was Jonah, with Dan as the runner-up (I would need to work for someone who has a soul, Minh wrote of the latter). How did you react when you read the script? It was not lasting remorse. But I guess at the end of the day, Im a cynical son of a bitch. Mike says Tom won four Oscars, so was the fourth for Philadelphia 2?You think so? Warning: This story contains plot details from Sundays series finale of Veep. He does like the intellectual exercise of imagining how the show could be done without TV-MA language. He just keeps bouncing back to this dysfunction. In the Oval Office after the election, she reflexively calls out for Gary, and when Keith [Andy Daly] reminds her that hes gone, she gets combative with him. I remember when she asked me early on in the series to break up with her boyfriend for her, because she didnt want to face it. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: While multiple fans would enjoy seeing Gary sleep with a Russian spy (Oh lord, Mandel says), Cecille had another idea for him: Gary actually quitting or getting fired from his post? What we just spoke about is obviously all of Garys story. And that was in contrast to how he saw himself the entire time, which was as her first lady. Then he just lost it. I still love it so much. I think he might view Selina with a little more empathy and compassion. And I think this is the problem, it started many years ago, which is that people are looking down on elitism and education. April 16, 2023. Viagra Trial Drama Men Up Coming to BBC From Russell T. 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Veep: Inside the final days of TVs smartest and filthiest comedy Veep stars choose their all-time favorite scenes Watch Veep star Timothy Simons read unaired Jonah insults. Yes, he enjoyed seeing people turn real Trump team gaffes into Veep closing-credits sequences like the executive order one above or Sean Spicers infamous Hitler remarks below. Hes around her again. PMC Entertainment. The betrayal and flash-forward outcome solidified Selinas monstrous transformation and yet, if you ask Hale, he has a surprising take on how it all played out. What resonates with you or haunts you from those few days of filming?I wouldnt say it was hard but those were such emotional days. My guess is that I think he was probably in prison for about 20 years. Yet we love Selina because a.) It was fun to be able to say that kind of stuff, and then just kind of retract and find ways to come off of it. Copyright 2023 Meredith Corporation. The joke I always say is, we would sit around trying to think of the stupidest, dumbest thing a president or his staff could do and they kind of outdo that on a daily basis.. How does he view her now? Hell hath no fury like a perpetually under-appreciated, eternally abused and currently marginalized political lackey scorned. Between Sarah Sutherlands Emmy worthy ugly crying and JLDs Emmy-winning performance, I cry from laughter every time I watch this episode. Other episodes tying for second with numerous shout-outs include Season 2s D.C. and The Vic Allen Dinner (as Eman said, It has everything: Kent being evil, Youre a meme, maam, Selina singing, the line Jolly Green Ji** Face.); Season 4s Election Night; and Season 5s Congressional Ball and Kissing Your Sister (aka Catherines documentary). Louis-Dreyfus said she believed something crosses Selinas eyes of perhaps remorse and love for Gary in their goodbye. What high or low crime was Jonah impeached for? Hell hath no fury like a perpetually under-appreciated, eternally . Because Selina doesn't go there very frequently. How many takes did you get to nail Gary and Selinas final scenes, first their goodbye and then their final glance once the FBI comes? Below, in a chat with THR, Hale digs into the shocking events of the series finale, reveals how he and Louis-Dreyfus went about filming the scene, and offers up a take that might just helpVeep viewers sleep at night when they think about Garys fate. "It is a decision she's made. But it was nice to see Veeps international fanbase come out to play: Im European, and Europe has a wonderful history regarding our attitude towards Jews, wrote Viktor, whos from Croatia. Thats perfect., Did you reach out to Tom Hanks for his death blessing? I think he gets an odd kick out of watching the show. Ive said this before, but its like a dog returning to his vomit. But it really is impossible, he says. "I'm actually really glad it happened because Gary needed to be woken up," he tells EW. She later explained to . In her monomania to become President, she sold out her most loyal servant and the person who loved her the most: Gary. I root for her because of amazing acting by her actor. Or, put more bluntly by Eman Abdelmouty: Shes the absolute worst. Because the others do, and she doesnt. Its fun to go over memories. "It's kind of important actually. Among the who's-who . Hes done outrageous things for her and nothing has yet snapped him out of it. The train was moving way to fast Im getting deep now but the train was going so fast of every action and behavior that shes ever done that it was inevitable. I moved for the past seven years anytime she said that and the fact that I had to stay there was like, 'Aww, dammnit! I was weirdly very satisfied by it because nothing was going to wake Gary out of this abusive cycle but this.. I kind of love that. He quickly shifted gears into paying tribute to the Oscar-winning actor (four times, possibly winning for the sequel-you-never-saw-coming in Philadelphia 2). Oh, thats interesting. (Laughs.) He got what we were going for at the end there, and was proud to be a part of it, and it just put a huge smile on Julias and my faces. He was a huge fan of the show. I think we all hope youll miss each other enough that youll come up with something down the line. Developed by Armando Iannucci, it is a long-awaited (five years!) And I love how Veep showed that full-circle moment with her. Did she get what she deserved, in addition to what she felt she deserved?DAVID MANDEL: Well, I do think she got what she deserved. Shes not one to examine her own feelings, but is she sad, angry, and disgusted at herself for turning on Gary and on everyone and everything else?The great thing about my job these last four years is, I get to write very simple things or talk to Julia about very simple concepts and go, Now play that. Then she does four million things with her face and I get to sit back and revel in it. We once played with an idea that when you jumped to the future and Richard was president, and he might have asked her to be his vice president in the future sort of a little bit of a gray-haired, foreign policy expert to his younger, more novice politician. The production of the convention was large in scale: it was filmed at a real arena in Los Angeles and they dropped a conventions-worth of balloons from the ceiling. declares Louis-Dreyfus, who emailed Hanks for his blessing. I dont remember whose idea that was, but It was a really nice distraction from the weight of what was going on. But I do think being skilled is different than being a good person. I think he definitely saw her in a different light and I think Selinas legacy is a trail of sadness. Gary is constantly getting beat up, so anytime theres an opportunity for a blowup where he can actually express himself, Im in. The whole team (reluctantly) returns to work for Jonahs campaign. Oh, yeah. Do you need me to fly back to New York and get a comb you left there? Gary and Selina were intimate. As for the other options: He owned a boat in the past and then had trouble getting rid of said boat, so I think he would be very happy in the boat world, although I dont think theres a lot of money in boat rental, he says. . Its so incredibly gratifying. We love that dichotomy., Did Selina have good intentions when she was in office? So much for Labor Day loyalty. From Austin Butler and Cate Blanchett to a potential Best Supporting Actress toss-up, see who EW thinks will win at the 2023 Oscars. But then when he gets out and she dies, his entire identity was based in her, so her dying meant that a portion of him was also dying. April 28, 2017, 12:21 PM. MANDEL RESPONDS: Its interesting. He wouldve been her type. Hes definitely not meant for prison. When she says to him, I need you to do a favor for me. Going to jail was never in the cards of that favor in Garys mind. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. "I felt in a sense like I had tight reins on myself, I was trying very hard not to let a certain kind of emotion flow out of me," she says. "When somebody else comes to her, it was so hard to watch that and not run to her," shares Hale. And then when she was writing the book with Mike, a little bit more about her father. Plus, he has that weird nickname, Buttf***er.'. What conversations, if any, did you have with him about the ending and wrapping up the show?We saw each other at the premiere in New York. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Season 5s Mother in which Selina lost both her mom and, perhaps more importantly, the popular vote got three times the nods of any other episode. So why is he there? No votes? Its tiny as f, its miniscule as all hell, but its just perfect, seeing this just I dont know, revulsion. "I knew about it for quite some time, and it felt absolutely perfect," Louis-Dreyfus tells EW of the story turn. How are you feeling about the change? https://www.yahoo.com/tv/veep-showrunner-david-mandel-responds-labor-day-theories-162157120.html. Sign up for THR news straight to your inbox every day, Inside the business of TV with breaking news, expert analysis and showrunner interviews. Its been a well-received season of change for HBOs Veep, but as we found out when we posed showrunner David Mandels 13 questions to fans, there are two things you can count on remaining the same: viewers love-hate relationship with Jonah and their shared desire to know what Gary did for Selina on Labor Day. Has he forgiven her? I think it would have suited him quite well, and I would have really enjoyed seeing him in one of those dental smock things.. The idea being, there is at least one more Oscar in the next 24 years, along with the sequel to Philadelphia. So hell blow up at Dan or Jonah, but never Selina. Hes the same guy just a little grayer here and there, maybe a little tanner. And in this case, she didnt even say it, she had the FBI guys come and grab me. This is, you know it's roadkill." I doubt we ever find out. We should also point out that as shes kicking these people out of the office, were ending in a White House where, yes, Sue is outside, but in her inner circle, theres nobody there from the old show. But in a career of amoral political moves, and especially in a recent tornado of decisions that saw her cravenly crave a return to the Oval Office at all costsselling out her daughter Catherine (Sarah Sutherland) by outlawing same-sex marriage, selling out Tibet by secretly okaying a Chinese invasion, selling out America by choosing dangerous dolt Jonah (Timothy Simons) as her VPit definitively answered the question that was thematically draped over the season: How far will Selina go to get what she wants? CBS Evening News anchor Mike McLintock (! How did you get her to return? ", That moment also required a degree of restraint for Hale. and I would also say that it's not easy. Thats the outcome of living a life like she did. Because if she doesnt go all in on that job, then it makes the decision to perhaps having had the abortion more wrong for her. Hell hath no fury like a perpetually under-appreciated, eternally abused and currently . I have confidence because of what he has previously worked on, but also because of his relationship with Julia. The second he said it, it was just like, Oh, my God. Catherine does go kind of the full Claire Danes. Ben (Kevin Dunn) has been dead! But its that same street fighter that then continues to do all of those other horrible things. The pair even sufferedtwin heart attacks last season. Yet, Catherine seemed happier for it. I did what I was supposed to do. You dont ever really get to see Gary angry, but Tony is channeling sort of a little bit of a disgust, if you will. (Laughs.) So thats what she did, which is not exactly healthy. Disturbing. And I think Mother fits into that world. 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