What are the differences and which would be more beneficial? Brenda, My name is Michael, Im a sophomore, and I was wondering if youre sure the letters are not a scam. The Envision experience provided her with key information and practical advice related to her goals in the field of . After reading the comments here I was correct about them that they seem to care more about money. The day ended with a raffle and an advertisement for the Youth Leadership Consortiums annual Youth Leadership Summit (YLS), a free program for low-income high school juniors in which the students go to the University of Chicago on a four-day retreat to learn about college. The last 3 days will be you most enjoyable days, because of the trips and the party. But, I think my father would be a little hesitant, so I was wondering if you could suggest some other medical summer programs that might be last about a month or longer and would be at UCLA or Ivy Leagues? Im in 6th grade and I just started middle school. They didnt realize there are hundreds of other programs, many less expensive, that they could have considered. Each of the six programs lasts a week or more. I didnt go for that very reason. i am an eleven grader and i just received a mail from NYLF and Im very interested in going. I dont get it. I would absolutely love to go, but it is nearly $3,000, which with my parents divorcing, we cant afford. Then I seen the price of the program and I couldnt help but think how in the world will I be able to come up with all that money!? Hi Everyone, The Youth Leadership Summit is designed to engage the next generation of leaders and introduce them to the world of international affairs. This is the best one yet! This feeling makes parents feel pressure to send their children, even if they can ill-afford the price tag. One of the pages urged us to call within 48 hours to confirm receipt of the invite so we would not lose our spot should we decide to enroll. She is not a genius and doesnt have any periodic tables memorized as some here have said. Some programs also get mailing lists from the SAT, PSAT, ACT, PLAN, etc. I would also love to hear from you. Being open to all students is fine, of course, but the problem is that the company sells the camps as a special honor to the best students, implying that not everyone can get in or will be selected. Is there any other programs that will have a better price than the NYLF? We were told 24 hours to notify them, Iam so glad I saw all these comments, I think I d rather gas up my car and spend the $$$ on visiting museums & historical sights over the summer instead. Megan. This is the forth time I am receiving such invitations from prestigious Universities ans colleges and my parents are very proud but kind of freaked about about it because they dont undertand how my name got there. The program will probably have the word leadership in its name, and the invitation to apply will most . If the former, fantastic, I wont have to hassle him about becoming more focused on the steps to take because hell be self-motivated. Last summer my daughter had finished 8th grade and was getting ready to enter high school. Have here been good reviews from students that have gone? Hi! Youth Leadership Summit. Dee, Would this program benefit me in the future? Megan. My guess is they got your name somewhere in the admissions process. You might want to listen to episode 27 of The College Prep Podcast. She asked what it was and said I dont even like science. Fergusons entertaining personality was more than enough to keep the entire room listening, as he rarely drifted off topic and provided several Curtis Helpful Hints.. Megan. The registration fee is $1,000 per student. Look closely at the scheduled activities at each camp. My most important question is which program would have the most impact, the most impression on my student if they want to continue to pursue or not their career path? Last Summer I had decided on engineering and three months ago I decided on aerospace Engineering. Such as if it would be something out of my league to attend to or not. I think it was only so great because of the people I met there, though. Just this week we answered a listener questions about these camps. I have the same concerns about the money and travel (unfortunately we dont live close enough, its about a 6-7 hour drive) which I am willing to do but just want to make sure its worth the money and time. A parent wants to help their child with their future career. We know we may not have the funds for it, but as a parent, we will find them. Please feel free to email me personally. You will find other summer options out there. Ok, Im a bit confused I got on of these letters for the National Security Camp I believe. Where did they get my name from! I was just wondering if you know of any less expensive options for leadership/extracurriculars woth more prestige. not worth it If he does attend now will he be grouped together with other kids his age or will he be attending with all different ages? Hi! As I said in the article, these programs are NOT scams. I am a junior and just got this invite for the National Youth Leadership Forum: Engineering & Technology and am wondering how many people get them! I think I will wait for now until he is older. Between the very high tuition and very over the top letter (repeating how prestigious it is in every paragraph), its a hard pass. Their is an FAQ section for students on their main page. The news release (PDF) states, "During autumn of 2022, the Traceback Consortium . Look into opportunities through community groups or area religious groups. Posted in Honors / Awards. Ive seen that they have scholarships and fundraising that would help though. Im a freshmen hoping to go in to medicine and got sent a letter all about it do you think as a freshmen it is beneficial for me or should I wait a year or 2? It is very expensive; but she raised money to help with the costs. I think that it would be a great experience for anyone who got nominated and is thinking about going. Ive had many students over the years attend the summer programs and I think they can be great enrichment experiences for students, but I would encourage you to shop around. It is a nice program right for some people, but not for everyone. As such, we hope for students to demonstrate the following characteristics: Student who are excited to attend and fully participate in the program, Students who have immediate purpose for leadership training, and will apply what is learned to current endeavors, Students who will conduct themselves appropriately in an adult conference setting, Students who are comfortable with moderate physical activity, and long training hours, Students who are very involved in GEAR UP programming, Students who are emerging leaders and display leadership qualities inside the classroom and in the community. It did come with a local list of children who attended last summer. Maybe in a couple years you will feel ready to attend a week-long program held at a university, but dont feel like you need to go right now. My neighbors kid did this to add it as an EC. If you were my child, I think wed look for some other programs before making a decision. Cookie Notice It is probably a more accurate description. I received a letter for medicine in the mail today. Im in 4th grade and I just got a letter from the NYLF . This company does a tremendous job of keeping all this negative information in the dark corners of the internet! First, National Youth Leadership Forum (NYLF) programs are legitimate. Based on the questions in my in-box, I guess it is that time of year againtime for letters notifying students of their nomination for National Youth Leadership Forum programs and the summer experiences you can elect to join. I stayed with her in a hotel in Fort Lauderdale just minutes from the campus. Doing and leading though the volunteer work you have already begun will be more impactful. Melissa, I know that my son has been interested in the security and intelligence field for pretty much his whole life, and I know that he now has the mental maturity to ask pertinent questions, and to network not only with his peers, but with the adults at the seminar. I am a junior and i received the same thing for advanced medicine. YOUTH CONSORTIUM. The organization does provide guiding principles for students to incorporate into their lives in their own unique way. You might find something close to you that costs a fraction of the price. I got a letter from NYLF for Law and CSI and I didnt know if it would be worth going or not, and I just wanted an opinion on whether or not I should go. Megan. Weve done a lot of summer day camps through our local museums / community arts programs. Do they do a background check on the people who will be taking care of them while they are at the residence halls? Wishing you the best! The first is that anyone can nominate anyone to attend and there are no selection criteria for getting in, other than a parent writing a check. You can get a very similar experience just calling up a residency program in your local town and having your son/daughter shadow. Another great summer opportunity is to create your own opportunities, which shows even greater initiative. First, I agree. The letter makes it seem as if NYLF is the only way your child can receive this type of recognition and enrichment. Hi! Which in my mind makes it a scam. Ive emailed them 20 times a month and called twice in one week to tell them I wasnt interested but they do not listen. I loved my experience there. Is this worth attending? 6 people in my school (elementary, middle, and high school) got nominated, so I think that it is pretty exclusive. (Her Fields) But I did some investigating and found both sources to not be worth the paper they are printed on. Michael, Dont do it, it is too expensive. The restless sun shined brightly down onto the equally restless morning coming up. Your day starts around 7 and ends at 9 I believe. Bottom line, highly underwhelming. I dont really care about looking good on college resumes because I try to do a bunch of stuff outside of school for that. We are about to pay for her to attend but will like to know if the amount you pay includes your flight to go and return, if she will be traveling with other students choosed from different schools or if we have to find a means for her to get to the college campus she will attend the program at. Some people regarded it as a scam but others claimed that it was a genuine program. My sons name was given, by his principal for the NYLF mailing list. A program similar to NYLF is the National Student Leadership Conference (NSLC). I told my mother i did not want to do it because of the price. Megan. Hundreds of students at each high school are nominated to participate; it is not an exclusive opportunity. I also have a son who is a high school sophomore who is very interested in attending this forum. or listen here: http://collegepreppodcast.com/2015/01/increasing-act-scores-learning-disabilities-math-best-summer-camps/ My 14 year old granddaughter received a letter from NYLF today and a letter with Buzz Aldrins endorsement last month. Yes, it is a nice to recognize top students. Your email address will not be published. The 2023 YLS will take place July 16-19, 2023, as part of the NCCEP/GEAR UP Annual Conference in San Francisco, California.. I have a third grader. Btw I am a tenth grade student at an academy, Im glad you had a great experience! Ive had students who have really benefited from the experiences. I have a 4th grader and jaunt signed up . Speaking as a parent myself, I believe that your folks simply want to ensure you have the best opportunities they can secure for you- even if that means they have to make financial sacrifices to do it. Hi! ACT is a registered trademark belonging to ACT, Inc. ACT, Inc. is not involved with or affiliated with College Prep Results, LLC, nor does ACT, Inc. endorse or sponsor any of the products or services offered by College Prep Results, LLC. The 2023 YLS will take place July 16-19, 2023, as part of the NCCEP/GEAR UP Annual Conference in San Francisco, California. I have a detailed discussion of a question very similar to yours on this weeks College Prep Podcast. Ella, Ella, However, you dont mention some of the other key problems with NYLF, so I wanted to note them here. One of my friends received a letter for medicine and I received one for advanced medicine and health care So I was just wondering is the advanced based on accademic performance and more competitive than the medicine program offered? Their tech was team building a robot. This would be my daughters first time away for that long and not being with family. I have taught high school for over 10 years and during that time have nominated several students, some have attended the event. The day ended with a raffle and an advertisement for the Youth Leadership Consortiums annual. I guess you dont want to spend your summer with a bunch of 17 year olds. I ONLY WISH THERE WAS A PROGRAM LIKE THIS THEN THAT WOULD HAVE MADE THEIR COLLEGE ACCEPTANCE EAISIER. She spent one week in Wyoming for Girl Scout camp and two weeks away at debate camp. You have to pay tuition and transportation. The YLS provides a high-quality, national-level interactive training experience and peer-to-peer learning opportunity focused on life, leadership and learning-to-learn skills for 9th-12th grade high school students who are currently participating . Unfortunately, based on what ive read these programs are expensive and my family is of low income. I think it depends on the person. Are we stuck and not able to cancel? Perhaps this isnt really an appropriate question, but I must ask: Are there special incentives for local high schools for promoting this to students? Again, that does not mean Envision Experience, Envision, EMI, or the National Youth Leadership Forum are a "scam." I think it would be more accurate to describe what Envision Experience offers as very expensive, possibly under-delivering camp experiences for people who really want their kids to succeed but may not realize that there is no . Maybe you participated in something else that indicated you might be interested in their pre-law program. Understand that this is just one of many options for your student. They barely have a science class in 3rd grade as it is. They called me and confirmed information and the lady asked about name, birthday, address, etc. This is a nice program, but it isnt going to set you apart more than any other summer program / camp. We just received the same packet and on one of the forms I says flight not included. Fergusons entertaining personality was more than enough to keep the entire room listening, as he rarely drifted off topic and provided several Curtis Helpful Hints., When looking at loans, there are two types: subsidized and unsubsidized. The program is held in four cities across the US and . The students were promised hands on experience with the technologynot so. NYLF programs are good, but they are not your only opportunity. I also applied this year and didnt get anything back. The students, ranging from freshmen to seniors with some eighth graders mixed in, were then divided by grade level and taken to different rooms for the two workshops about college information. I AM A VERY PROUD GRANDMA OF A 10 YEAR OLD GRANDAUGHTER THAT JUST ARRIVED IN DENVER TODAY FOR HER WEEK WITH THE PROGRAM Marcus, I keep getting information about the program, at least every year. My 11 year old got his letter this week. I got nominated, but I am unsure how they got my name, I havent done any testings listed above, nor do I know how they discovered my want for law school, Megan, Its a lot of money and some of the people who have gone said they feel they didnt receive their moneys worth (its only a week long but you pay $2000~$5000). Today, Youth Leadership Consortium (YLC) Staff is prepping for the first Young Leaders Summit (YLS)! There are fewer programs that are free or almost free, but some do exist. Maybe Im cynical, but this sounds like they will give you the full sales pitch over the phone. But since it is too expensive, it is not. Further, the programs are run by a for-profit company, called Envision EMI. College Prep Saturdays main goal is to teach middle and high school students and their parents how exactly to plan, prepare and pay for college. The wall on the left of the massive gym boasted painted blue and white and sports displays, the majority of them being because of basketball. I have signed my son up to go to one this Summer. Try searching for summer programs for students at some of the state universities in your area. Im a junior and I got a letter in the mail today for the NYLF Law & CSI program, and I havent necessarily seen any bad experiences regarding it. Id encourage you to save some money and find something less expensive. I remember a girl in my group who couldnt spell nurse. Really?? Conference Registration will open early May. Find the show on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-college-prep-podcast/id909682404?mt=2) to episode 27 You can attain either through scholarships or grants, both of which do not require you to pay back. Besides the fact that there were so many activities the friends I made was what truly made the experience, as all the kids I met there came from diverse backgrounds and were all very talented. We discussed a question very similar to this on The College Prep Podcast this week. I agree. Youth Consortium is a diverse, youth-led group focused on civic engagement and leadership. Candice, We live in a dying community where the gap between the haves and the have-nots is HUGE. If local colleges and universities have similar summer programs, then arent they just as credible as NYLF? They will also know that you arent turning down what might be an amazing experience only because of the cost. Yes, these programs are costly. Also the workload and getting used to [will be difficult], she said when asked about potential obstacles that she could face while going to college. Thank you for the great information on this topic. My 9 year old received the packet for the Chicago based one also. Would he get more out of the program if you waited a year or two? I read through everything. The cost supposedly includes room and board located at University of California-Berkley along with classes, course materials and lab fees and transportation to and from off side excursions (likely not including the cost of the events) What are you throughts? 2 yr. ago I messaged them and they said they would most likely release admission decisions by next week 4 level 2 Im NOT a paid spokesperson. However, hearing a cool story from Gramps is not necessarily the best thing to base future plans on, as far as Im concerned. I would like to be able to do it but Im not sure if its worth it for a freshman to learn all this at once and Im also worried about the cost. We visited the Berkeley main campus. Cecilia, I went to the engineering conference and it was awesome and completely worth it. Megan. And, get this, their instructions for teaching you how to code.. hogwash. I want to if that program offers grants or scholarship of some kind to maybe students who do not have the benefit like others. I cant find any complaints about the safety. I am glad and excitted about it, but I am wondering of it is a program appropriate for my age. I am guessing this invite is just marketing and tons of people get them but I just want to be 100% positive just in case there for some reason is some specialty in receiving the letter(: Thank you so much! Id love to hear about your childs experience with the program. Based on what youve heard and seen do you think its worth it? We also built a replica zipline. Alexis, its fantastic that you want to save your parents money; I applaud you for that. Our goal at Envision by WorldStrides is to help students grow as people by developing independence, leadership, problem-solving skills, worldliness, and maturity. 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